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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 09:32:31 -0700
From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
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Subject: Re: [STACK] >3k call path in reiserfs
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J?rn Engel wrote:

>On Thu, 10 June 2004 19:49:04 -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
>  
>
>>J?rn Engel wrote:
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>>
>>>It appears to me that most developers agree to the two point above,
>>>but you have some problems with them, at least lately.  Am i wrong?
>>>      
>>>
>>This is all part of what responsible release management is about.   I 
>>was the junior whiz kid in professional release management teams before 
>>starting Namesys.  I listened to my elders and learned from them.  My 
>>standards for professional conduct in this arena are higher than yours 
>>as a result of that. 
>>
>>You are a bunch of young kids who lack professional experience in 
>>release management.  That is ok, but don't get aggressive about it.
>>
>>I have no desire to pay for your mistakes, and as the official 
>>maintainer it is my responsibility to ensure that neither I nor the 
>>users pay for the mistakes of those who add bugs to stable branches 
>>instead of adding them to the development branches where they belong.
>>    
>>
>
>Well, this ain't OpenBSD.  They have a strict 6month release schedule,
>so your type of development works just fine for them.  Linux has
>something like a very relaxed 24month+ release "schedule", which is
>far too long for some people.  As a result, the Linux "stable" kernel
>is a lot less stable than the OpenBSD one.
>
>But long release cycles also have their advantages and - most
>important - they work with Linus.  So effectively, we all have to
>accept them and deal with the consequenses.  I really understand and
>partially share your doubts, but what does it help? ;)
>
>J?rn
>
>  
>
Reiser4 is going to obsolete V3 in a few weeks.  V3 will be retained for 
compatibility reasons only, as V4 blows it away in performance.

You are right though that OpenBSD does some things better.

Hans
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