Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266183AbUFPGXa (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 02:23:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266185AbUFPGXa (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 02:23:30 -0400 Received: from pdbn-d9bb9ea9.pool.mediaWays.net ([217.187.158.169]:35590 "EHLO citd.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266183AbUFPGX2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Jun 2004 02:23:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:21:54 +0200 From: Matthias Schniedermeyer To: Paul Jackson Cc: aoliva@redhat.com, cesarb@nitnet.com.br, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, viro@math.psu.edu Subject: Re: [PATCH] O_NOATIME support Message-ID: <20040616062154.GA28366@citd.de> References: <20040612011129.GD1967@flower.home.cesarb.net> <20040614224006.GD1961@flower.home.cesarb.net> <20040615193205.GA25131@citd.de> <20040615150349.352b9fb1.pj@sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040615150349.352b9fb1.pj@sgi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1224 Lines: 45 On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 03:03:49PM -0700, Paul Jackson wrote: > Matthias, replying to Alexandre: > > > But utimes updates the inode modification time, so you can still tell > > > something happened to the file. > > > > No. > > A less terse answer: > > Utimes modifies the inode ctime - time of last inode change. > > So, yes, you can still something happened to the file. Hmm. The man-page doesn't meantion this, but i tried it stat touch stat and all 3 times were the same after touching it. man touch - snip - Update the access and modification times of each FILE to the current time. - snip - I would have guessed that changing atime/mtime doesn't change ctime. Bis denn -- Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/