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Cc: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>,
       Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
From: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
Subject: Re: Stop the Linux kernel madness
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:54:36 -0400
To: 4Front Technologies <dev@opensound.com>
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On Jun 18, 2004, at 14:23, 4Front Technologies wrote:
> Timothy,
>
> Who are you to revoke my request to SuSE and other distributors and 
> others who share
> my views on LKML?

Who are you to demand it in the first place.  As far as I can see, 
you've contributed
nothing notable to the kernel development community (But please correct 
me if I'm
wrong).  Why should we listen to you, when you haven't given us reason 
to.  All
you've done is demand things of the LKML, but why should we listen to 
your
demands instead of our own.

> What is wrong with making a demand for standardization?. It's high time
> that things got a bit more organized. And where do you see a 
> demand....I just
> said "like to see". Which is more of a request the way I understand 
> English.

If you want things more organized, then please code it up and submit a 
series of
clean patches against the current kernel.  Besides, a lack of 
organization is
sometimes a good thing. (See _The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar_:
<http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/>).

> It's high time people like me spoke up for standardization and some 
> sense of
> organization. If the majority doesn't want to listen fine, it's a free 
> world,
> but you have no right to silence me for airing my views.

We're not silencing you for airing your views.  If anything, we're 
silencing you
because your views get in the way of us doing real work.  If you want 
to be
productive and give us a clean set of patches, then go ahead, but all 
you're
doing right now is making the signal-to-noise ratio on the LKML worse.

Cheers,
Kyle Moffett


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