Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 08:49:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 08:48:50 -0400 Received: from www.inreko.ee ([195.222.18.2]:52971 "EHLO www.inreko.ee") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 08:48:39 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:04:21 +0200 From: Marko Kreen To: "Eric S. Raymond" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: comments on CML 1.1.0 Message-ID: <20010414150421.A28066@l-t.ee> In-Reply-To: <200104140317.f3E3Hv805992@snark.thyrsus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200104140317.f3E3Hv805992@snark.thyrsus.com>; from esr@snark.thyrsus.com on Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:17:57PM -0400 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Using CML2 1.1.0 'menuconfig' on clean 2.4.3 (mach is PPro 180) Suggestions: * the 'N' should be shown as ' ' as in menuconfig - it is visually much better to get overview of whole screenful. 'Y'/'M' and 'N' are basically of 'same size' so you must look directly on letter to understand what it is - not good. * the menuconfig had nice shortcut: when you pressed 'm' on [YN] field, it put 'y' there without questions. So you could use only 2 keys to configure one screen: 'n/m'. this meant you did not need to move fingers around and think about it so much - big thing when you are not touch-typer... * the colors are hard to see (red/blue on black). Probably matter of terminal settings. I do not have any productive ideas tho... Probably to get best experience to as much people as possible the less colors are used the better. The 'blue: last visited submenu' is unnecessary. Especially because it later turns green... And the 'red' vs. 'green' thing. I guess the green should be used for 'visited entries' too. Now the red means like 'Doh. So I should not have touched this?'. Confusing. In other words: if there are too much colors, they become a thing that should be separately learned, not a helpful aid. All this IMHO ofcourse. Colors are 'matter of taste' thing so there probably is not exact Rigth Thing. Bugs/complaints: * aic7xxx is not updated (defaults: are 8/5 should be 253/5000) (this from arch/i386/defconfig maybe?) * 'IDE chipset support' nesting is very confusing - compare to menuconfig. I would say even 'wrong'... (eg. 'PIIXn tuning' is is under 'PIIXn support' which is not under 'ATA works in progress'. * screen is redrawn after _every_ keystroke - not only in moving around, but even when you are on input field... * input field: when there is some default and I start typing it should either clear it or append. -- marko - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/