Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267538AbUIAFAf (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Sep 2004 01:00:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268088AbUIAFAf (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Sep 2004 01:00:35 -0400 Received: from gprs212-176.eurotel.cz ([160.218.212.176]:6784 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267538AbUIAFAb (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Sep 2004 01:00:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 06:59:22 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: David Masover Cc: Horst von Brand , Jamie Lokier , Chris Wedgwood , viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Linus Torvalds , Christoph Hellwig , Hans Reiser , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 Message-ID: <20040901045922.GA512@elf.ucw.cz> References: <200408311931.i7VJV8kt028102@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <41352279.7020307@slaphack.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41352279.7020307@slaphack.com> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1296 Lines: 36 Hi! > | You do need extra tools anyway, placing them in the kernel is cheating > (and > | absolutely pointless, IMHO). > > Repeat after me: plugins in kernel does NOT equal tools in kernel. > > It's not hard to, for instance, imagine a generic plugin for archive > manipulation which talks to a userspace daemon/library. The kernel > doesn't know anything other than (maybe) a list of extensions that are > archives. All else is handled in userspace -- the idea that "this is a > zipfile" and "zipfiles can be extracted with the 'zip' command" are all > in userspace. > > It's not about the kernel, it's about the interface. And see my other mail: > cat foo.zip/README > less foo.zip/contents/bar.c > is a lot easier than > lynx http://google.com/search?q=zip > emerge zip > man zip > unzip foo.zip > cat bar.c > which already assumes quite a lot of expertise. If you only want nice user interface, you can have that today. Its done using coda, and hosted at uservfs.sf.net. Pavel -- When do you have heart between your knees? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/