Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267974AbUIAVlZ (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Sep 2004 17:41:25 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267478AbUIAVhW (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Sep 2004 17:37:22 -0400 Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.4]:38018 "HELO viper.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S267840AbUIAVfE (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Sep 2004 17:35:04 -0400 Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 From: Lee Revell To: Jeremy Allison Cc: Jamie Lokier , Trond Myklebust , Alan Cox , Denis Vlasenko , Rik van Riel , Christer Weinigel , Spam , Andrew Morton , wichert@wiggy.net, Linus Torvalds , reiser@namesys.com, hch@lst.de, Linux Filesystem Development , Linux Kernel Mailing List , flx@namesys.com, reiserfs-list@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <20040901205140.GL4455@legion.cup.hp.com> References: <200408261819.59328.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua> <1093789802.27932.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1093804864.8723.15.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <20040829193851.GB21873@jeremy1> <20040901201945.GE31934@mail.shareable.org> <20040901202641.GJ4455@legion.cup.hp.com> <20040901203101.GG31934@mail.shareable.org> <20040901203543.GK4455@legion.cup.hp.com> <20040901204746.GI31934@mail.shareable.org> <20040901205140.GL4455@legion.cup.hp.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1094074502.1343.14.camel@krustophenia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:35:03 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1392 Lines: 35 On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 16:51, Jeremy Allison wrote: > On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 09:47:46PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: > > Jeremy Allison wrote: > > > > I meant when I copy not using Samba. For example, I copy the .doc > > > > file in Windows NT to an FTP server. > > > > > > > > Does the FTP operation magically linearise the .doc streams on demand? > > > > Or does FTP lose part of the Word document? > > > > > > Good question. It depends if the Microsoft ftp client is streams-aware, > > > and understands the Microsoft OLE structured storage format and will do > > > the linearisation on demand or not. I must confess I haven't tested this, > > > as I don't ever run Windows other than on vmware sessions for Samba testing > > > these days :-). > > > > > > Probably a non-Microsoft ftp client would lose part of the word doc. > > > > So you're saying SCP, CVS, Subversion, Bitkeeper, Apache and rsyncd > > will _all_ lose part of a Word document when they handle it on a > > Window box? > > > > Ouch! > > Yep. It's the meta data that Word stores in streams that will get lost. > This is shocking. When was this behavior introduced? Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/