Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267810AbUIAXQm (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Sep 2004 19:16:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267594AbUIAXOa (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Sep 2004 19:14:30 -0400 Received: from mail.shareable.org ([81.29.64.88]:11722 "EHLO mail.shareable.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267545AbUIAUtQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Sep 2004 16:49:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 21:47:46 +0100 From: Jamie Lokier To: Jeremy Allison Cc: Trond Myklebust , Alan Cox , Denis Vlasenko , Rik van Riel , Christer Weinigel , Spam , Andrew Morton , wichert@wiggy.net, Linus Torvalds , reiser@namesys.com, hch@lst.de, Linux Filesystem Development , Linux Kernel Mailing List , flx@namesys.com, reiserfs-list@namesys.com Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 Message-ID: <20040901204746.GI31934@mail.shareable.org> References: <200408261819.59328.vda@port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua> <1093789802.27932.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1093804864.8723.15.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <20040829193851.GB21873@jeremy1> <20040901201945.GE31934@mail.shareable.org> <20040901202641.GJ4455@legion.cup.hp.com> <20040901203101.GG31934@mail.shareable.org> <20040901203543.GK4455@legion.cup.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040901203543.GK4455@legion.cup.hp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1325 Lines: 33 Jeremy Allison wrote: > > I meant when I copy not using Samba. For example, I copy the .doc > > file in Windows NT to an FTP server. > > > > Does the FTP operation magically linearise the .doc streams on demand? > > Or does FTP lose part of the Word document? > > Good question. It depends if the Microsoft ftp client is streams-aware, > and understands the Microsoft OLE structured storage format and will do > the linearisation on demand or not. I must confess I haven't tested this, > as I don't ever run Windows other than on vmware sessions for Samba testing > these days :-). > > Probably a non-Microsoft ftp client would lose part of the word doc. So you're saying SCP, CVS, Subversion, Bitkeeper, Apache and rsyncd will _all_ lose part of a Word document when they handle it on a Window box? Ouch! The only sensible implementation I can imagine would be if the OS linearised multi-stream Word documents into the non-stream format automatically for all programs which don't know about streams. Which is of course what I would like to implement for Linux... - Jamie - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/