Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268222AbUIBRz3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Sep 2004 13:55:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268216AbUIBRvy (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Sep 2004 13:51:54 -0400 Received: from verein.lst.de ([213.95.11.210]:6567 "EHLO mail.lst.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268030AbUIBRu6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Sep 2004 13:50:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 19:50:34 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Alan Cox , Jamie Lokier , Horst von Brand , Adrian Bunk , Hans Reiser , viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Christoph Hellwig , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Message-ID: <20040902175034.GA18861@lst.de> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Hellwig , Linus Torvalds , Alan Cox , Jamie Lokier , Horst von Brand , Adrian Bunk , Hans Reiser , viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , ReiserFS List References: <20040826150202.GE5733@mail.shareable.org> <200408282314.i7SNErYv003270@localhost.localdomain> <20040901200806.GC31934@mail.shareable.org> <1094118362.4847.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1282 Lines: 25 On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 10:46:32AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Mer, 2004-09-01 at 21:50, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > and quite frankly, I think you can do the above pretty much totally in > > > user space with a small library and a daemon (in fact, ignoring security > > > issues you probably don't even need the daemon). And if you can prototype > > > it like that, and people actually find it useful, I suspect kernel support > > > for better performance might be possible. > > > > Gnome already supports this in the gnome-vfs2 layer. "MC" has supported > > it since the late 1990's. > > And nobody has asked for kernel support that I know of. > > So either "it just works" in user space, or people haven't figured out the > kernel could help them. Or decided it's not worth it, exactly because > they'd still have to support systems/filesystems that can't be converted. http://oss.oracle.com/projects/userfs/ has code that clues gnomevfs onto a kernel filesystem. The code is horrible, but it shows that it can be done. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/