Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269837AbUIDIhu (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 04:37:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269839AbUIDIhu (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 04:37:50 -0400 Received: from holly.csn.ul.ie ([136.201.105.4]:14746 "EHLO holly.csn.ul.ie") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S269837AbUIDIhs (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 04:37:48 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 09:37:47 +0100 (IST) From: Dave Airlie X-X-Sender: airlied@skynet To: Keith Whitwell Cc: Jon Smirl , Alex Deucher , dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: New proposed DRM interface design In-Reply-To: <41397C08.1020507@tungstengraphics.com> Message-ID: References: <9e4733910409032051717b28c0@mail.gmail.com> <9e47339104090323047b75dbb2@mail.gmail.com> <41397086.3020509@tungstengraphics.com> <41397C08.1020507@tungstengraphics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1545 Lines: 36 > > Let me be clear that I am unwilling to support changes to the DRM that break > it's usability on other operating systems on principle. I'm in agreement on that, ... > > Maybe it's time to consider a fork of the DRM to allow a major experimentation > of the form Jon envisages to proceed without worrying about boring constraints > like keeping BSD working, backwards compatibility, etc. And the current DRM > architecture, which is pretty much stabilized, can continue to do those boring > tasks, and accumulate new drivers, until GNULonghorn is finished... I think it might be an idea myself, but not at this stage, I think a month or two from now it might be a better time, if we get an agreeable re-design done, then I'd be willing to let a fork proceed from that point, so that at least the DRMs are all coming from the same point, I think we should hold off on putting 2d stuff into the 3d drivers until the DRM is rearchitected into a nice clean stable system that is actually liked by kernel developers :-), I'm pushing the second set of macros removals to Linus over the next week, along with experimenting on a core/library tree... Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/