Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269842AbUIDJC0 (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 05:02:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269841AbUIDJC0 (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 05:02:26 -0400 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]:33988 "EHLO colossus.systems.pipex.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S269842AbUIDJCY (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 05:02:24 -0400 Message-ID: <4139849C.6080509@tungstengraphics.com> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 10:02:20 +0100 From: Keith Whitwell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8a3) Gecko/20040817 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Airlie Cc: Jon Smirl , Alex Deucher , dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: New proposed DRM interface design References: <9e4733910409032051717b28c0@mail.gmail.com> <9e47339104090323047b75dbb2@mail.gmail.com> <41397086.3020509@tungstengraphics.com> <41397C08.1020507@tungstengraphics.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1606 Lines: 36 Dave Airlie wrote: >>Let me be clear that I am unwilling to support changes to the DRM that break >>it's usability on other operating systems on principle. > > > I'm in agreement on that, ... > >>Maybe it's time to consider a fork of the DRM to allow a major experimentation >>of the form Jon envisages to proceed without worrying about boring constraints >>like keeping BSD working, backwards compatibility, etc. And the current DRM >>architecture, which is pretty much stabilized, can continue to do those boring >>tasks, and accumulate new drivers, until GNULonghorn is finished... > > > I think it might be an idea myself, but not at this stage, I think a month > or two from now it might be a better time, if we get an agreeable > re-design done, then I'd be willing to let a fork proceed from that point, > so that at least the DRMs are all coming from the same point, This seems a good plan. > I think we should hold off on putting 2d stuff into the 3d drivers until > the DRM is rearchitected into a nice clean stable system that is actually > liked by kernel developers :-), I'm pushing the second set of macros > removals to Linus over the next week, along with experimenting on a > core/library tree... Thanks for the great work you're putting into this, it's very much appreciated. Apologies for my pre-morning-coffee grumpiness... Keith - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/