Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265974AbUIDT4X (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 15:56:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265996AbUIDT4X (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 15:56:23 -0400 Received: from mustang.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.3]:6855 "HELO mustang.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S265974AbUIDT4V (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 15:56:21 -0400 Subject: Re: NVIDIA Driver 1.0-6111 fix From: Lee Revell To: Tim Fairchild Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Sid Boyce , linux-kernel In-Reply-To: <200409041954.05272.tim@bcs4me.com> References: <41390988.2010503@blueyonder.co.uk> <20040904103601.D13149@infradead.org> <200409041954.05272.tim@bcs4me.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1094327788.6575.209.camel@krustophenia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 15:56:28 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1670 Lines: 34 On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 05:54, Tim Fairchild wrote: > The nvidia module compiles fine with the non mm kernel but will > not compile with the mm patches for me. The nvidia module is binary-only. You are not compiling it, AIUI the installer fetches the binary module from the nvidia site and builds some wrappers. Even if this process were to succeed the result would almost certainly not work. This is the reason you need open source software. Judging from all the tainted-kernel OOPS'es that get posted here, it would appear that the majority of Linux users are perfectly willing to buy hardware that requires binary-only drivers. People do not seem to understand that there is absolutely NO incentive for vendors to open their source if you would buy it just the same with a binary driver! I bet 99.9% of the people who signed that stupid petition already own freaking ATI hardware. The people yelling the loudest seem to be those who didn't realize the hardware wasn't Linux compatible when they bought it, when it would have taken 10 seconds to find out. Why should they give you an open source driver now, when you were perfectly willing to buy it without one? Because you threaten not to buy another? Bwahahahahaha. The only kind of democracy hardware vendors understand is voting with your wallet. Personally I don't care, all the drivers I use are open source, but the whining is getting tiresome. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/