From: Dominik Karall <dominik.karall@gmx.net>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Subject: Re: NVIDIA Driver 1.0-6111 fix
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 23:22:47 +0200
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so which (in this case) graphic card should we buy? i bought my nvidia card, 
because i knew that nvidia hands out linux drivers, even if they are binary 
only, but i knew that they do, so i didn't want to buy another card and 
realize afterwards that it absolutely isn't supported under linux.

regards,
dominik


On Saturday 04 September 2004 21:56, Lee Revell wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 05:54, Tim Fairchild wrote:
> > The nvidia module compiles fine with the non mm kernel but will
> > not compile with the mm patches for me.
>
> The nvidia module is binary-only.  You are not compiling it, AIUI the
> installer fetches the binary module from the nvidia site and builds some
> wrappers.  Even if this process were to succeed the result would almost
> certainly not work.  This is the reason you need open source software.
>
> Judging from all the tainted-kernel OOPS'es that get posted here, it
> would appear that the majority of Linux users are perfectly willing to
> buy hardware that requires binary-only drivers.  People do not seem to
> understand that there is absolutely NO incentive for vendors to open
> their source if you would buy it just the same with a binary driver!
>
> I bet 99.9% of the people who signed that stupid petition already own
> freaking ATI hardware.  The people yelling the loudest seem to be those
> who didn't realize the hardware wasn't Linux compatible when they bought
> it, when it would have taken 10 seconds to find out.  Why should they
> give you an open source driver now, when you were perfectly willing to
> buy it without one?  Because you threaten not to buy another?
> Bwahahahahaha.
>
> The only kind of democracy hardware vendors understand is voting with
> your wallet.  Personally I don't care, all the drivers I use are open
> source, but the whining is getting tiresome.
>
> Lee

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