Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261234AbUIDVWX (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 17:22:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261451AbUIDVWX (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 17:22:23 -0400 Received: from mustang.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.3]:36305 "HELO mustang.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261234AbUIDVWV (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 17:22:21 -0400 Subject: Re: NVIDIA Driver 1.0-6111 fix From: Lee Revell To: Tim Fairchild Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Sid Boyce , linux-kernel In-Reply-To: <200409050702.29007.tim@bcs4me.com> References: <41390988.2010503@blueyonder.co.uk> <200409041954.05272.tim@bcs4me.com> <1094327788.6575.209.camel@krustophenia.net> <200409050702.29007.tim@bcs4me.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1094332949.6575.360.camel@krustophenia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 17:22:29 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1531 Lines: 34 On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 17:02, Tim Fairchild wrote: > Users don't really care about open and closed source. They just want > to play quake 3 (etc). > I have never understood why these people don't just run Windows. I have also never understood why people make so much noise about having to use a closed source driver to play A CLOSED SOURCE GAME! What's next, a petition to open the UT2004 source? Sheesh... > I've never had an oops that was specifically caused by the nvidia module, tho > I suppose it does happen. And I have never seen one either. I am just using the OOPS'es as an indication of how many Linux users use this driver. It's WAY more than I expected. The open source nv.o module works fine for me, I don't see how the 2D would need to be faster, or how you would even tell the difference. I suspect many of these users are ricers who tweak CFLAGS and compare benchmark scores all day, and cannot bear to use the open source driver if it will make their machine 1% slower. I was surprised to find that apparently there are open source ATI 3D drivers after all but some people are petitioning ATI anyway because these 'aren't as good' as the binary ones. So fix it already, this is open source, and if you can't, then please learn to write code or STFU. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/