Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266275AbUIEG1m (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Sep 2004 02:27:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266274AbUIEG1m (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Sep 2004 02:27:42 -0400 Received: from smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.213.4]:64634 "EHLO smtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266275AbUIEG10 (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Sep 2004 02:27:26 -0400 Message-ID: <413AB1CC.7090008@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 07:27:24 +0100 From: Sid Boyce Reply-To: sboyce@blueyonder.co.uk User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Jakma CC: Lee Revell , Tim Fairchild , Christoph Hellwig , linux-kernel Subject: Re: NVIDIA Driver 1.0-6111 fix References: <41390988.2010503@blueyonder.co.uk> <20040904103601.D13149@infradead.org> <200409041954.05272.tim@bcs4me.com> <1094327788.6575.209.camel@krustophenia.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2004 06:27:49.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[76CDEA70:01C49311] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1644 Lines: 41 Paul Jakma wrote: > On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Lee Revell wrote: > >> I bet 99.9% of the people who signed that stupid petition already own >> freaking ATI hardware. The people yelling the loudest seem to be those >> who didn't realize the hardware wasn't Linux compatible when they bought >> it, when it would have taken 10 seconds to find out. > > In this game, I tend to leave it up to the individual and groups to fight for whatever they want as it's sometimes a bit of concerted action that yields results. It can be a protracted exercise, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. The situation has improved as far as vendor support is concerned, it started at zero, but still not all we would like and may never be, so it's a case of eating what you have on your plate and asking for more - no bones broken. > Urm... the ATi R1xx and R2xx cards *are* open-source supported (thanks > weather channel!). The R2xx ATi FireGL is the fastest open-driver DRI > card.. > > regards, It's users of that calibre and vendors with the clout of IBM, Dell, HP etc. that can help and the fact that Linux will rapidly be a good revenue stream for the most open of manufacturers. Today in Linux we are not where we were 10 years ago and 10 years from now we won't be where we are today and the signs are good. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE===== - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/