Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267589AbUIFHxU (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 03:53:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267585AbUIFHxO (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 03:53:14 -0400 Received: from pauli.thundrix.ch ([213.239.201.101]:18857 "EHLO pauli.thundrix.ch") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267582AbUIFHw5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 03:52:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 09:45:18 +0200 From: Tonnerre To: Spam Cc: Linus Torvalds , Alan Cox , Jamie Lokier , Horst von Brand , Adrian Bunk , Hans Reiser , viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Christoph Hellwig , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Message-ID: <20040906074518.GA28697@thundrix.ch> References: <20040826150202.GE5733@mail.shareable.org> <200408282314.i7SNErYv003270@localhost.localdomain> <20040901200806.GC31934@mail.shareable.org> <1094118362.4847.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1591214030.20040902215031@tnonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1591214030.20040902215031@tnonline.net> X-GPG-KeyID: 0x8BE1C38D X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1AB0 9AD6 D0C8 B9D5 C5C9 9C2A FF86 CBEE 8BE1 C38D X-GPG-KeyURL: http://users.thundrix.ch/~tonnerre/tonnerre.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040803i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2096 Lines: 59 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Salut, On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 09:50:31PM +0200, Spam wrote: > Their libraries are huge and memory hogging which so many Linux > users just do not like. This is rather a fud argument: both the gnome VFS code and the KIOserver/KIOslave code aren't really large. You don't want to use them for a busybox/tinylogin system, however. > What if a user doesn't want KDE or Gnome? Would all files created > with either be broken? The files still work well, just that you can't access them over the old fancy URL schemes. > I doubt that something like file streams and meta-data can > successfully be implemented purely in user-space and get the same > support (ie be used by many programs) if this change doesn't come > from the kernel. I just do not see it happen. Actually, practical discordianism. If you develop a common API, there'll always be people disagreeing. GTK+ with all its features is just cool. Desktop warping is a really nice thing. But there are people out there who don't want to use it. They use QT, or even plain old Athena Widgets. So what? Will we be implementing the X toolkits into the kernel? In case of marketing it's up to the distributions to provide something concise so everyone can use their programs through a coherent namespace. (I.e. port all the apps they ship to gnome-vfs or kio). Tonnerre --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.9.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBPBWO/4bL7ovhw40RAjSWAKCq0mojqMrj5U0kywi5bJLuHvOsGwCeMgwn /z2OnS7XcLu4Ecmo16PDcr4= =BwD3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/