Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267554AbUIFJVI (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 05:21:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267702AbUIFJVI (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 05:21:08 -0400 Received: from smtp.virgilio.it ([212.216.176.142]:3247 "EHLO vsmtp2alice.tin.it") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267685AbUIFJUx (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 05:20:53 -0400 Message-ID: <413C2ACF.9060908@futuretg.com> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 11:15:59 +0200 From: "Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando" Organization: Future Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; es-ES; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040612 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tonnerre CC: Spam , Linus Torvalds , Alan Cox , Jamie Lokier , Horst von Brand , Adrian Bunk , Hans Reiser , viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Christoph Hellwig , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives References: <20040826150202.GE5733@mail.shareable.org> <200408282314.i7SNErYv003270@localhost.localdomain> <20040901200806.GC31934@mail.shareable.org> <1094118362.4847.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1591214030.20040902215031@tnonline.net> <20040906074518.GA28697@thundrix.ch> <1873133500.20040906100534@tnonline.net> <20040906085614.GD28697@thundrix.ch> In-Reply-To: <20040906085614.GD28697@thundrix.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2731 Lines: 98 Tonnerre wrote: >Salut, > >On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 10:05:34AM +0200, Spam wrote: > > >>Then it is good. Just I see no programs other than Gnome or KDE apps >>that are using them. >> >> > >Because KDE people hate Gnome people and vice versa, and because the >rest of the world just neglects the two races for political reasons. > > Hi, This is completely wrong. Neither KDE people hate GNOME people nor viceversa. Time ago, I repeat in a conference the GNOME people need to jump on the KDE wagon, so the train will move to a single direction, and people does not approve this comment. More than on the license, QPL, there are a developer problem. Develop in C (Gtk, GNOME) is a lot more easy than develop in C++ (Qt, KDE) But, for the GUI, the C++ approach is a lot superior ... a lot. The problem is this. They start to develop on Gtk to create GNOME, in C for a license problem. Now, they said why I need to change? But they need to change, because it is supeiror. Everyone may of course wants to do what prefer. >Maybe the Freedesktop project should provide some convenient >specification/code to do it. Like they do for HAL and DBUS (Please >note that this is something interesting because it does clever things >on hardware without requiring to patch the kernel.) > > > I don't agree FreeDesktop.org, because it is handled by a RedHat employee and the code is made on Gtk2, generally. ... They are not neutral. Thanks, Giovanni >>>In case of marketing it's up to the distributions to provide >>>something concise so everyone can use their programs through a >>>coherent namespace. (I.e. port all the apps they ship to gnome-vfs >>>or kio). >>> >>> >>Do you really believe this will happen? >> >> > >If the distributors really want to be able to gain money, and if the >Free Unix community wants to gain a significant market share, this is >supposed to happen. It's the question of whether we can ignore our >childish concept wars, or if we're always going to stay at that low >level we're at now. > >Actually, this can't be fixed by putting everything into the kernel. > > Tonnerre > > -- -- -- Check FT Websites ... http://www.futuretg.com - ftp://ftp.futuretg.com http://www.FTLinuxCourse.com http://www.FTLinuxCourse.com/Certification http://www.rpmparadaise.org http://GNULinuxUtilities.com http://www.YourPersonalOperatingSystem.com -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/