Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267389AbUIFWh2 (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 18:37:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267362AbUIFWh2 (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 18:37:28 -0400 Received: from as8-6-1.ens.s.bonet.se ([217.215.92.25]:27348 "EHLO zoo.weinigel.se") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267386AbUIFWhX (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 18:37:23 -0400 To: David Masover Cc: Horst von Brand , Spam , Tonnerre , Christer Weinigel , Linus Torvalds , Pavel Machek , Jamie Lokier , Chris Wedgwood , viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Christoph Hellwig , Hans Reiser , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 References: <200409061814.i86IEcPJ005086@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <413CB219.5030800@slaphack.com> From: Christer Weinigel Organization: Weinigel Ingenjorsbyra AB Date: 07 Sep 2004 00:37:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <413CB219.5030800@slaphack.com> Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1181 Lines: 26 David Masover writes: > Second, there are quite a few things which I might want to do, which can > be done with this interface and without patching programs, but would > require massive patches to userspace. There have been numerous > examples. Please give one example? There is a lot of handwaving here on all sides. > | I'd go the other way around: Get userspace to agree on a common framework, > | make it work in userspace; if (extensive, hopefully) experience shows that > | a pure userspace solution has issues that can't be solved except by kernel > | assistance, so be it. > > We already have such a framework -- it's called "VFS". That you'd like to break the semantics of. Great. /Christer -- "Just how much can I get away with and still go to heaven?" Freelance consultant specializing in device driver programming for Linux Christer Weinigel http://www.weinigel.se - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/