Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268080AbUIGOTu (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:19:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268086AbUIGOTu (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:19:50 -0400 Received: from ppsw-6.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.136]:21986 "EHLO ppsw-6.csi.cam.ac.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268080AbUIGOTp convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:19:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] copyfile: copyfile From: Anton Altaparmakov To: Linus Torvalds Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Engel , Andrew Morton , lkml , Steve French In-Reply-To: References: <20040907120908.GB26630@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> <20040907121118.GA27297@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> <20040907121235.GB27297@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> <20040907121520.GC27297@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Organization: University of Cambridge Computing Service, UK Message-Id: <1094566775.25420.13.camel@imp.csi.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:19:36 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ X-Cam-AntiVirus: No virus found X-Cam-SpamDetails: Not scanned Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2468 Lines: 56 On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 15:06, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Jörn Engel wrote: > > > > Again, the syscall itself may be a stupid idea, but Steve indicated > > interest for cifs. I'll hide behind his back and let him fight for > > it. ;) > > Well, this isn't useful for cifs. > > For cifs to be able to use it, the "copyfile()" interface needs to > basically just be a pathname operation (ie a "dir->i_op->copy()"), not a > "struct file" operation. It's more like the VFS "->rename()" or "->link" > operations, in other words. And it should return -EXDEV the same way > rename returns EXDEV if the files aren't on the same filesystem. Indeed. A pathname based operation would be useful for any fs with "added features". For example, on NTFS it could be used to preserve named streams and extended attributes which would otherwise be lost. Mind you, the current NTFS driver cannot create files yet so it will be a while until such a "copyfile()" is useful there... > Then you could (and should) make a "generic_file_copy()" function that > takes that pathname format, and then uses sendfile() to do the copy for > regular disk-based filesystems. > > I think you should be able to copy the "sys_link()" code for almost all of > the top-level stuff. The only real difference being > > - error = dir->i_op->link(old_dentry, dir, new_dentry); > + error = dir->i_op->copy(old_dentry, dir, new_dentry); > > or something. > > And no, I don't know how to handle interruptability. I think the right > answer may be that filesystems that don't support this as a "native op" > and can't do it quickly should just return an error, and then users can > copy their multi-gigabyte files by hand, like they used to. > > So if we do this, we do this _right_. We also make sure that we error out > "too much" rather than "too little", so that people don't start depending > on behaviour that we don't want them to depend on. Best regards, Anton -- Anton Altaparmakov (replace at with @) Unix Support, Computing Service, University of Cambridge, CB2 3QH, UK Linux NTFS maintainer / IRC: #ntfs on irc.freenode.net WWW: http://linux-ntfs.sf.net/, http://www-stu.christs.cam.ac.uk/~aia21/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/