Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268334AbUIGSYh (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:24:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268356AbUIGSWs (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:22:48 -0400 Received: from inti.inf.utfsm.cl ([200.1.21.155]:64903 "EHLO inti.inf.utfsm.cl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268334AbUIGSSJ (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:18:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200409071815.i87IFseF004907@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> To: Hans Reiser cc: Spam , Christer Weinigel , David Masover , Tonnerre , Linus Torvalds , Pavel Machek , Jamie Lokier , Chris Wedgwood , viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Christoph Hellwig , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 In-Reply-To: Message from Hans Reiser of "Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:05:39 MST." <413DF873.1090304@namesys.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.4.2; nmh 1.0.4; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 15) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:15:54 -0400 From: Horst von Brand Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1711 Lines: 45 Hans Reiser said: > Horst von Brand wrote: > >Spam said: > >>Christer Weinigel said: [...] > >>>2. How do we want to expose named streams? > >>> One suggestion is file-as-directory in some form. > >Which is broken, as it forbids hard links to files. > No, it forbids hard links to the directory aspect of the file-directory > duality. How do you distinguish a "hard link to the directory personality" from "hard link to the file personality"? And how do you make sure that only one of them can be followed if you go to the directory, while allowing several to the exact same file?! > >Now you have 3 principal types of objects: Directories, containers (files > >with streams), and files (no streams). > No, the reiser4 design supports only files and directories, but makes > them able to do what people use streams for. I.e., you have files/directories with/without "use as streams" stuff. 4 types (or uses) of things. > The reiser4 design is based on a hatred of streams, and a desire to show > that adding more features to files and directories makes streams > unnecessary. Trade one ugly wart for others... -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/