Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266115AbUIIUrU (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:47:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266117AbUIIUrU (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:47:20 -0400 Received: from hibernia.jakma.org ([212.17.55.49]:28319 "EHLO hibernia.jakma.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266115AbUIIUrI (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:47:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 21:45:56 +0100 (IST) From: Paul Jakma X-X-Sender: paul@fogarty.jakma.org To: Hans Reiser cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , Robin Rosenberg , William Stearns , Linux Kernel Subject: Re: silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea ofwhat reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why In-Reply-To: <4140ABB6.6050702@namesys.com> Message-ID: References: <41323AD8.7040103@namesys.com> <413E170F.9000204@namesys.com> <200409080009.52683.robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com> <20040909090342.GA30303@thunk.org> <4140ABB6.6050702@namesys.com> X-NSA: arafat al aqsar jihad musharef jet-A1 avgas ammonium qran inshallah allah al-akbar martyr iraq saddam hammas hisballah rabin ayatollah korea vietnam revolt mustard gas british airways washington MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1656 Lines: 43 On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Hans Reiser wrote: > Putting \ into filenames makes windows compatibility less trivial. Err, I think Ted used \ as an example of how to escape |. It is not part of the filename. > Putting | into filenames seems like asking for trouble with shells. I think that was Ted's precise reason for arguing that | be used. Did you even read his rationale? :) > If you think \| is user friendly, oh god, people like you are the > reason why Unix is hated by many. I think he was arguing | (not \|) is the least worst seperator to use. > Rather few people understand closure though, so I don't expect to > do well in the politics of this. It is a bit like being for free > trade, most people will never understand why it is so important > because their mental gifts are in other matters, Lots of people understand why free-trade is important. It's taught in introductory economics/business classes in secondary school. If you are similarly underestimating the understanding of those who are debating merits of in-name-space streams with you, and overestimating your own understanding, you're not going make progress in convincing people of their merit (if at all). regards, -- Paul Jakma paul@clubi.ie paul@jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A Fortune: The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. -- Mark Twain - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/