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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:57:11 -0700
From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
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Subject: Re: silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document
 the idea ofwhat reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why
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Paul Jakma wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>> Putting \ into filenames makes windows compatibility less trivial.
>
>
> Err, I think Ted used \ as an example of how to escape |. It is not 
> part of the filename.

It is not part of it at one level, but in the shell it is part of it.

>
>> Putting | into filenames seems like asking for trouble with shells.
>
>
> I think that was Ted's precise reason for arguing that | be used. Did 
> you even read his rationale? :)

That trouble is desirable? Yes, I can understand why he might not want 
things to work well.;-)

>
>> If you think \| is user friendly, oh god, people like you are the 
>> reason why Unix is hated by many.
>
>
> I think he was arguing | (not \|) is the least worst seperator to use.
>
>> Rather few people understand closure though, so I don't expect to do 
>> well in the politics of this. It is a bit like being for free trade, 
>> most people will never understand why it is so important because 
>> their mental gifts are in other matters,
>
>
> Lots of people understand why free-trade is important. It's taught in 
> introductory economics/business classes in secondary school.

Have you looked at the political process at all? Or by lots of people, 
do you mean a sizable minority?


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