Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:23:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:22:53 -0400 Received: from mail.reutershealth.com ([204.243.9.36]:31919 "EHLO mail.reutershealth.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:22:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3ADC5FD9.9050905@reutershealth.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:23:05 -0400 From: John Cowan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686; en-US; 0.8) Gecko/20010215 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: John Cowan , james rich , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: CMLConfigurator skins (was: CML2 1.1.3 is available) In-Reply-To: <20010416205556.A22960@thyrsus.com> <20010417103856.A27762@thyrsus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input)@localhost.localdomain Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Other possibility: support only the 16 EGA colors by name. Excellent idea! > But if I do that, > some of the X colors are just *wrong* on standard gray background > (cyan is a good example). So let the user set the background color too. I find gray backgrounds a mortal pain (the "standard" 75% gray of browsers, e.g., is a bad compromise between pictures, which want 50% gray, and text, which wants 100% gray = white). When I write HTML, my only concession to non-Strictness is a "bgcolor='white'" attribute in every start-tag. > There's no way to get this right. There's no way to get it Good and Right for all, without more work than you are willing to put in, following the hacker *mabla*-tradition of basically ignoring UI/HF issues. But it is still possible to make it Bad and Right, using such a hack as described above. What you have now is Good and Right for some and Bad and Wrong for others, and the number of "others" can only grow --- no matter how much you dink the colors in Brownian motion, responding to random electromagnetic forces from randoms. > So I choose to get it wrong in a simple > way rather than a complex, costly way. Don't say you weren't warned, nag, nag, nag, ... My strategy here is to make sufficient fuss that you are motivated to get off your duff to shut me up. :-) Better me than some irate newbie who decides that configuring kernels "can make you blind, man". And whilst you are implementing this, make sure a range of font sizes is allowed in the X version. My middle-aged eyes are more and more happy with the "huge" setting in the xterm control-rightbutton menu, especially on SuperVGA screen sizes. -- There is / one art || John Cowan no more / no less || http://www.reutershealth.com to do / all things || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan with art- / lessness \\ -- Piet Hein - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/