Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266127AbUIMGGU (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Sep 2004 02:06:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266117AbUIMGGU (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Sep 2004 02:06:20 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.201]:16182 "EHLO mproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266127AbUIMGF4 convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Sep 2004 02:05:56 -0400 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 02:05:56 -0400 From: Alex Deucher Reply-To: Alex Deucher To: Vladimir Dergachev Subject: Re: radeon-pre-2 Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michel_D=E4nzer?= , Dave Airlie , Alan Cox , Jon Smirl , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Felix_K=FChling?= , DRI Devel , lkml , Linus Torvalds In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT References: <1094835846.17932.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <9e47339104091011402e8341d0@mail.gmail.com> <1094853588.18235.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1094912726.21157.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1095035276.22112.31.camel@admin.tel.thor.asgaard.local> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2332 Lines: 62 On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:45:18 -0400 (EDT), Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Michel [ISO-8859-1] D�nzer wrote: > > > On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 23:42 +0100, Dave Airlie wrote: > >> > >> I think yourself and Linus's ideas for a locking scheme look good, I also > >> know they won't please Jon too much as he can see where the potential > >> ineffecienes with saving/restore card state on driver swap are, especailly > >> on running fbcon and X on a dual-head card with different users. > > > > Frankly, I don't understand the fuss about that. When you run a 3D > > client on X today, 3D client and X server share the accelerator with > > this scheme, and as imperfect as it is, it seems to do a pretty good job > > in my experience. > > Not that good - try dragging something while a DVD video is playing. The overlay could be converted to use the CP engine as well. right now it has to switch to MMIO for overlay. Alex > > But, I don't understand what the fuss is about either. What's wrong with > putting PLL setting code inside DRM driver and letting it be the client of > fbcon ? And the transition problems could be well solved by leaving the > existing fbcon in for the time being, it is not like the kernel does not > have duplicate drivers. > > best > > Vladimir Dergachev > > > > > > > > > -- > > Earthling Michel Dänzer | Debian (powerpc), X and DRI developer > > Libre software enthusiast | http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=daenzer > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 > > Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on > > who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. > > Deadline: Sept. 13. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > Dri-devel mailing list > > Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/