Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266139AbUINWD4 (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:03:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267565AbUINWBZ (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:01:25 -0400 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:39070 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S269495AbUINV6H (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:58:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:15:58 -0300 From: Marcelo Tosatti To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: swapping and the value of /proc/sys/vm/swappiness Message-ID: <20040914201558.GA32254@logos.cnet> References: <413CB661.6030303@sgi.com> <20040906162740.54a5d6c9.akpm@osdl.org> <1095186713.6309.15.camel@stantz.corp.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1095186713.6309.15.camel@stantz.corp.sgi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1797 Lines: 43 On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 11:31:53AM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 16:27, Andrew Morton wrote: > > Con Kolivas wrote: > > > > The change was not deliberate but there have been some other people report > > > significant changes in the swappiness behaviour as well (see archives). It > > > has usually been of the increased swapping variety lately. It has been > > > annoying enough to the bleeding edge desktop users for a swag of out-of-tree > > > hacks to start appearing (like mine). > > > > All of which is largely wasted effort. > > >From a highly-theoretical, ivory-tower perspective, maybe; i am not the > one to pass judgement. > >From a realistic, "fix it 'cause it's performing worse than MSDOS > without a disk cache" perspective, definitely not true. > > I've found a situation where the vanilla kernel has a behaviour that > makes no sense: > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109237941331221&w=2 > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109237959719868&w=2 > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109238126314192&w=2 > > A patch by Con Kolivas fixed it: > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109410526607990&w=2 > > I cannot offer more details, i have no time for experiments, i just need > a system that works. The vanilla kernel does not. Have you tried to decrease the value of /proc/sys/vm/swappiness to say 30 and see what you get? Andrew's point is that we should identify the problem - Con's patch rewrites swapping policy. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/