Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267454AbUIOU6I (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:58:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267429AbUIOU4m (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:56:42 -0400 Received: from adsl-63-197-226-105.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net ([63.197.226.105]:54714 "EHLO cheetah.davemloft.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267433AbUIOUzl (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:55:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:53:08 -0700 From: "David S. Miller" To: Alan Cox Cc: paul@clubi.ie, netdev@oss.sgi.com, leonid.grossman@s2io.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: The ultimate TOE design Message-Id: <20040915135308.78bf74f0.davem@davemloft.net> In-Reply-To: <1095275660.20569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4148991B.9050200@pobox.com> <1095275660.20569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; sparc-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Face: "_;p5u5aPsO,_Vsx"^v-pEq09'CU4&Dc1$fQExov$62l60cgCc%FnIwD=.UF^a>?5'9Kn[;433QFVV9M..2eN.@4ZWPGbdi<=?[:T>y?SD(R*-3It"Vj:)"dP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1111 Lines: 27 On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:14:22 +0100 Alan Cox wrote: > On Mer, 2004-09-15 at 21:04, Paul Jakma wrote: > > The intel IXP's are like the above, XScale+extra-bits host-on-a-PCI > > card running Linux. Or is that what you were referring to with > > " but they are all fairly expensive."? > > Last time I checked 2Ghz accelerators for intel and AMD were quite cheap > and also had the advantage they ran user mode code when idle from > network processing. ROFL, and this is my position on this topic as well. There are absolutely no justified economics in these TOE engines. By the time you deploy them, the cpus and memory catch up and what's more those are general purpose and not just for networking as David Stevens and others have said. TOE is just junk, and we'll reject any attempt to put that garbage into the kernel. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/