Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267585AbUIOVkD (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:40:03 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267576AbUIOVhQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:37:16 -0400 Received: from adsl-63-197-226-105.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net ([63.197.226.105]:19643 "EHLO cheetah.davemloft.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267585AbUIOVfH (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:35:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:29:26 -0700 From: "David S. Miller" To: Jeff Garzik Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, paul@clubi.ie, netdev@oss.sgi.com, leonid.grossman@s2io.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: The ultimate TOE design Message-Id: <20040915142926.7bc456a4.davem@davemloft.net> In-Reply-To: <4148B2E5.50106@pobox.com> References: <4148991B.9050200@pobox.com> <1095275660.20569.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4148A90F.80003@pobox.com> <20040915140123.14185ede.davem@davemloft.net> <20040915210818.GA22649@havoc.gtf.org> <20040915141346.5c5e5377.davem@davemloft.net> <4148B2E5.50106@pobox.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; sparc-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Face: "_;p5u5aPsO,_Vsx"^v-pEq09'CU4&Dc1$fQExov$62l60cgCc%FnIwD=.UF^a>?5'9Kn[;433QFVV9M..2eN.@4ZWPGbdi<=?[:T>y?SD(R*-3It"Vj:)"dP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 787 Lines: 20 On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:23:49 -0400 Jeff Garzik wrote: > The typical definition of TOE is "offload 90+% of the net stack", as > opposed to "TCP assist", which is stuff like TSO. I think a better goal is "offload 90+% of the net stack cost" which is effectively what TSO does on the send side. This is why these discussions are so circular. If we want to discuss something specific, like receive offload schemes, that is a very different matter. And I'm sure folks like Rusty have a lot to contribute in this area :-) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/