Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267363AbUIPBRz (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:17:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267449AbUIPBPE (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:15:04 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:17343 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267400AbUIOU0U (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:26:20 -0400 Message-ID: <4148A561.5070401@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:26:09 -0400 From: Neil Horman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0; hi, Mom) Gecko/20020604 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Jakma CC: Netdev , leonid.grossman@s2io.com, Linux Kernel Subject: Re: The ultimate TOE design References: <4148991B.9050200@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1745 Lines: 47 Paul Jakma wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Jeff Garzik wrote: > >> Put simply, the "ultimate TOE card" would be a card with network >> ports, a generic CPU (arm, mips, whatever.), some RAM, and some >> flash. This card's "firmware" is the Linux kernel, configured to run >> as a _totally indepenent network node_, with IP address(es) all its own. >> >> Then, your host system OS will communicate with the Linux kernel >> running on the card across the PCI bus, using IP packets (64K fixed MTU). > > >> My dream is that some vendor will come along and implement such a >> design, and sell it in enough volume that it's US$100 or less. There >> are a few cards on the market already where implementing this design >> _may_ be possible, but they are all fairly expensive. > > > The intel IXP's are like the above, XScale+extra-bits host-on-a-PCI card > running Linux. Or is that what you were referring to with " > but they are all fairly expensive."? > >> Jeff > > > regards, IBM's PowerNP chip was also very simmilar (a powerpc core with lots of hardware assists for DMA and packet inspection in the extended register area). Don't know if they still sell it, but at one time I had heard they had booted linux on it. Neil -- /*************************************************** *Neil Horman *Software Engineer *Red Hat, Inc. *nhorman@redhat.com *gpg keyid: 1024D / 0x92A74FA1 *http://pgp.mit.edu ***************************************************/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/