Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:09:54 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:09:39 -0500 Received: from cerebus-ext.cygnus.co.uk ([194.130.39.252]:31218 "EHLO passion.cygnus") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:09:15 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 From: David Woodhouse X-Accept-Language: en_GB In-Reply-To: <00110616471600.01646@dax.joh.cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <00110616471600.01646@dax.joh.cam.ac.uk> <00110615242102.01541@dax.joh.cam.ac.uk> <10109.973518003@redhat.com> <23007.973524894@redhat.com> To: "James A. Sutherland" Cc: Jeff Garzik , Dan Hollis , Alan Cox , Oliver Xymoron , Keith Owens , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 17:08:52 +0000 Message-ID: <6786.973530532@redhat.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org jas88@cam.ac.uk said: > Yippee. As we all know, implementing GUI volume controls and putting > the slider in the right place is a kernel function, and nothing to do > with userspace... Don't troll, James. The kernel needs to provide the functionality required by userspace. The functionality required in this case is the facility to read the current mixer levels. jas88@cam.ac.uk said: > The right thing in this context is not to screw with hardware > settings unless and until it is given settings to set. Do not set > values arbitrarily: set only the values you are explicitly given. > Anything else is simply a bug in your driver. It is unwise to assume that the hardware is in a sane state when the driver has been unloaded and reloaded. I agree that you should set the values that were explicitly given. That's why we should remember them. -- dwmw2 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/