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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:25:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Mestnik <cheako911@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Design for setting video modes, ownership of sysfs attributes
To: Felix =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=20=22K=FChling=22?= <fxkuehl@gmx.de>,
       Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
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       dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
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--- Felix K?hling <fxkuehl@gmx.de> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:46:13 -0400
> Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:45:37 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> > <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> > > One issue here... When we discussed all of this with Keith, we
> wanted
> > > a mecanism where the user can set the mode without "owning" the
> device.
> > 
> > The owning part is for multiuser systems. If I have four users logged
> > into the same system I have to assign them ownership of their video
> > devices so that they can't mess with each other.  I want to avoid
> > needing root priv to change the monitor mode.
> > 
> > > Typically, with X: We don't want X itself to have to be the one
> setting
> > > the mode, but rather set the mode and have X be notified properly
> before
> > > and after it happens so it can "catch up".
> > 
> > This is going to require some more thought. Mode setting needs two
> > things, a description of the mode timings and a location of the scan
> > out buffer.  With multiple heads you can't just assume that the buffer
> > starts at zero.  There also the problem of the buffer increasing in
> > size and needing to be moved since it won't fit where it is.
> > 
> > Keith, how should this work for X? We have to make sure all DRI users
> > of the buffer are halted, get a new location for the buffer, set the
> > mode, free the old buffer, notify all of the DRI clients that their
> > target has been wiped and has a new size.
> 
> Sounds a lot like moving and resizing GL windows in X. A similar (if not
I'd like to point out that this is not smooth on my system, exept for when
using fglrx.  When I move, or resize, a DRI window I get vary
noticable(more then 10th second) stoped system, mouse updates aren't even
recorded.

> the same mechanism) could be used here. Whenever a client takes the lock
> and detects that someone else had the lock in the mean time it checks
> for a new window position and size. Checking for a changed mode or frame
> buffer layout would fit in nicely. AFAIK these kind of changes are
> communicated through the sarea which is shared by all DRI clients, the
> Xserver and the kernel driver, so the checks are pretty low cost (no
> system calls or context switches required).
> 
> You only have to take the lock before changing the mode. DRI clients and
> X will detect the change when they take the lock the next time and
> adjust to the new conditions.
> 
> > 
> > I was wanting to switch mode setting into an atomic operation where
> > you passed in both the mode timings and buffer location.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jon Smirl
> > jonsmirl@gmail.com
> 
> | Felix K?hling <fxkuehl@gmx.de>                     http://fxk.de.vu |
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> 
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