Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264500AbUIVLLR (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:11:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264571AbUIVLLQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:11:16 -0400 Received: from open.hands.com ([195.224.53.39]:38810 "EHLO open.hands.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264500AbUIVLK4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:10:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:21:59 +0100 From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: FUSE fusexmp proxy example solves umount problem! Message-ID: <20040922112159.GD20688@lkcl.net> References: <20040922004941.GC14303@lkcl.net> <1095845610.2613.4.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1095845610.2613.4.camel@laptop.fenrus.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-hands-com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-hands-com-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: lkcl@lkcl.net Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1841 Lines: 55 On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 11:33:30AM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 02:49, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > what do people think about a filesystem proxy kernel module? > > has anyone heard of such a beast already? > > (which can also do xattrs) > > > > fusexmp.c (in file system in userspace package) does stateless > > filesystem proxy redirection. > > > > this is a PERFECT solution to the problem of users removing media > > from drives without warning. > > eh and the 2.6 kernel doesn't deal with it? It really is supposed to > deal with it nicely already... okay. the reason that fusexmp works is because it doesn't actually touch the filesystem except on an operation: there's no state information stored, no file handles kept open, no directory handles kept open. an implementation of this same functionality (a filesystem proxy) in the linux kernel would involve: - creating proxy inodes - reconstructing the full path name d_path(dentry, mnt, full_path, sizeof(full_path)); then prefixing that with the mount point and then issuing a proxy command. now, if the solution to this problem in the linux kernel is broken because someone forgot to deal with opendir() then _great_. in the meantime... l. -- -- Truth, honesty and respect are rare commodities that all spring from the same well: Love. If you love yourself and everyone and everything around you, funnily and coincidentally enough, life gets a lot better. -- lkcl.net
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