To: Martin Josefsson <gandalf@wlug.westbo.se>
cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
       Marc Ballarin <Ballarin.Marc@gmx.de>,
       Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org,
       lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
       "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Warn people that ipchains and ipfwadm are going away.
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From: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:15:58 +0200
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Martin Josefsson <gandalf@wlug.westbo.se> writes:

> On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
>
>> > Sure, but you have to start somewhere.  Next step will be #error.  Then
>> > finally remove the whole thing (I don't want to remove the whole thing
>> > to start with, since that would create a silent failure).
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Rusty.
>> > --
>>
>> What replaces the firewall stuff? It can't just "go away"!
>
> Ever heard of iptables?

Except that it doesn't have usable 32bit emulation on x86-64.
32bit userland on x86-64 kernel cannot use iptables, they have
to use ipchains.

I would ask for to not drop ipchains until this is fixed.

-Andi

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