Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264503AbUIWT5L (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:57:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261234AbUIWT5L (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:57:11 -0400 Received: from smtp-roam.Stanford.EDU ([171.64.10.152]:4020 "EHLO smtp-roam.Stanford.EDU") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264503AbUIWT5F (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:57:05 -0400 Message-ID: <41532A92.5080305@myrealbox.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:57:06 -0700 From: Andy Lutomirski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040918) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Albert Cahalan CC: linux-kernel mailing list , ak@muc.de, gandalf@wlug.westbo.se Subject: Re: [PATCH] Warn people that ipchains and ipfwadm are going away. References: <1095962839.4974.965.camel@cube> <41532504.3000005@nortelnetworks.com> <1095968193.4969.980.camel@cube> In-Reply-To: <1095968193.4969.980.camel@cube> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1056 Lines: 32 Albert Cahalan wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 15:33, Chris Friesen wrote: > >>Albert Cahalan wrote: >> >> >>>Who is doing a 32-bit userland on x86-64, and WTF for? >>>Why do they not also run a 32-bit kernel? >> >>Backwards compatibility? Desire to run binary-only 32-bit software as well as >>64-bit software on the same kernel? > > > Nope. For that, you run 99% 64-bit, including iptables. > That's what is typically done. So you'd have a 32-bit > OpenOffice maybe, and everything else is 64-bit. > > I'm still not seeing a need to run an x86-64 kernel > with an i386 iptables. > > Easy migration: take your fully-set-up server image, throw in an Opteron with 16GB RAM, and boot a 64-bit kernel. As long as you don't need more than 4GB/program, you're set. Except your firewall is broken. --Andy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/