Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:24:29 +0200
From: Tonnerre <tonnerre@thundrix.ch>
To: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: __initcall macros and C token pasting
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Salut,

On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 07:21:04PM +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote:
> > One response is to build a stable API for the core.
>=20
> This has absolutely zero chance to happen, as the evolution of the
> kernel has proven time and again.  The internal APIs of the kernel
> aren't stable, however much we'd like them to be, because the best way
> to do something at time t isn't the best way to do it at time t+1.
> The best that is done is to try to change the drivers at the time the
> core changes, and that only happens if the source of the drivers is
> there along with the rest of the kernel.

That'd be true if fact were fiction and TV reality.

Actually, lots  of drivers  that *are* in  the kernel are  pretty much
broken.

And I don't  think putting more drivers into  the mainline kernel will
fix this problem.

The  only thing that  will is  doing stable  and development  trees in
different places. We ceased to do that, and *it's* *no* *good*.

			    Tonnerre

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