Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266048AbUJASgm (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:36:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266136AbUJASgm (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:36:42 -0400 Received: from zeus.kernel.org ([204.152.189.113]:5563 "EHLO zeus.kernel.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266048AbUJASgk (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:36:40 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="CP 1252" From: Jesse Pollard To: jmerkey@comcast.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:23:23 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: jmerkey@drdos.com References: <100120041740.9915.415D967600014EC2000026BB2200758942970A059D0A0306@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <100120041740.9915.415D967600014EC2000026BB2200758942970A059D0A0306@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <04100113232300.13462@tabby> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2021 Lines: 39 On Friday 01 October 2004 12:40, jmerkey@comcast.net wrote: > Who cares about GPL violations in Linux . What can anyone do about it > anyway. The FSF isn't going to sue anyone unless someone give them the > money to do it. Most of this banter and name calling people do about it is > a waste of time. What punishment will anyone get for it. A few people > writing mean emails and finder pointing -- Yeah -- this will really stop > someone from doing it. If you give your code away GPL, or not you have > just done just that. Tigrian is correct in his statements. > > Even if you review it and make a fuss it does nothing to stop people. The > GPL is flawed since it does not require people to go back to the copyright > holders and demand a license for commerical use. This is the only way you > will ever stop these people. So instead of being whinny babies about it, > fix the GPL and add this language. Then anyone who uses the code in a > commerical enterprise will be required to get a license, and you can > actually do something about it. > > Oops. Too late. Linux has a huge trail of everyone's code under the GPL > so you cannot re-release the code under another license unless the entire > code base is re-written. So anyone can fork it at any point and claim, "we > never accepted the license even though we download and use the code. Guess > what, this is legally valid to say and totally circumvents the GPL, they > just have to leave your copyright notices in place. > > :-) > > Jeff Anybody that has code in the kernel under GPL is CAN start a lawsuit for compliance. But that doesn't mean they HAVE to do so. But if they don't know it may be happening, how could they decide? So "make a fuss". If someone DOES decide to go after them.. fine. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/