Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267502AbUJBSgm (ORCPT ); Sat, 2 Oct 2004 14:36:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267507AbUJBSgm (ORCPT ); Sat, 2 Oct 2004 14:36:42 -0400 Received: from clock-tower.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:52117 "EHLO localhost.localdomain") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267502AbUJBSgh (ORCPT ); Sat, 2 Oct 2004 14:36:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone From: Alan Cox To: "Jeff V. Merkey" Cc: jonathan@jonmasters.org, "jmerkey@comcast.net" , Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <415DD1ED.6030101@drdos.com> References: <100120041740.9915.415D967600014EC2000026BB2200758942970A059D0A0306@comcast.net> <35fb2e590410011509712b7d1@mail.gmail.com> <415DD1ED.6030101@drdos.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1096738439.25290.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:34:01 +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1753 Lines: 42 On Gwe, 2004-10-01 at 22:53, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > will say whatever they have to. I've been there, in the real world, all > GPL means is you are giving away your IP to whomever is running > whatever effort and you have little recourse. The GPL is tough to > enforce the way its worded for individuals. There's too much The German counts didn't think so. > wiggle room for people to use. Alan Cox in a previous email basically > stated, " they are being nice and answering emails." Doesn't look > like it takes much for these people to smooch and kiss up to folks. They > will always come back to the table like foxes from the > henhouse, with chicken feathers all over their lips saying "show me the > chickens." If you look at the motivation you'd then have to ask yourself why they would want to do that given that a) They from the start said publically "its using Linux" and b) Are dropping custom (well probably bought in mostly) apps onto a generic reference platform. Not only they seem to be behaving but I can see no obvious game advantages for them to cheat. One thing that certainly would be interesting as a thought experiment for the legal bods (the real ones) would be what occurs if the license on a couple of essential bits of the kernel was to say GPL v 2 blah bla or you may choose to distribute the software without source code for $100,000 per product you ship it in. This would then also give both a Judge and the thief a clear crystalised value for damages.... Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/