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To: AJ Lewis <lewis@sistina.com>
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From: Jes Sorensen <jes@linuxcare.com>
Date: 19 Apr 2001 21:40:13 +0200
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>>>>> "AJ" == AJ Lewis <lewis@sistina.com> writes:

AJ> On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:17:29PM +0200, Jes Sorensen wrote:
>> This was tried, trust me. We didn't create this list because
>> someone forgot to respond to a single posting. As we wrote in the
>> announcement there has been too many incidents: At least two people
>> got kicked off the old lvm list for posting comments about the
>> latest release using lower bits in pointers to store data. Other
>> people have posted patches for serious bugs like NULL pointer
>> dereferences and the postings were denied. Another person
>> complained about the behavior and got no response.

AJ> What are you talking about???  Got kicked off?  If so, it was not
AJ> intentional, I can assure you.  That would just be stupid.  As far
AJ> as patches being rejected, refer to the e-mail I just sent.

mkp@mkp.net got unsubscribed when he posted the complaint about
storing data in lower bits of pointers. Riel got bumped when he
followed up on the same topic.

Jens just told me he has at least one denied reponse from the
moderator (just got the below from him):

"Your request to the linux-lvm mailing list
 Posting of your message titled "Re: 2.4.3-ac{6,7} LVM hang"
 has been rejected by the list moderator."

>> For modules included in the Linux kernel, an open development forum
>> is a minimum requirement.

AJ> Who asked for this?  Who did you talk to?  I haven't seen anything
AJ> to this effect for months.

A moderated list is not an open environment. Had this been for a
Sistina only product I wouldn't have any problem with it, but this is
for an integrated part of the Linux kernel.

Jes
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