Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269165AbUJFJok (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Oct 2004 05:44:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269170AbUJFJok (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Oct 2004 05:44:40 -0400 Received: from outpost.ds9a.nl ([213.244.168.210]:25782 "EHLO outpost.ds9a.nl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S269165AbUJFJoi (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Oct 2004 05:44:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:44:37 +0200 From: bert hubert To: Andrew Morton Cc: Jeff Garzik , nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, kenneth.w.chen@intel.com, mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, judith@osdl.org Subject: Re: new dev model (was Re: Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms) Message-ID: <20041006094437.GA28277@outpost.ds9a.nl> Mail-Followup-To: bert hubert , Andrew Morton , Jeff Garzik , nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, kenneth.w.chen@intel.com, mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, judith@osdl.org References: <200410060042.i960gn631637@unix-os.sc.intel.com> <20041005205511.7746625f.akpm@osdl.org> <416374D5.50200@yahoo.com.au> <20041005215116.3b0bd028.akpm@osdl.org> <41637BD5.7090001@yahoo.com.au> <20041005220954.0602fba8.akpm@osdl.org> <416380D7.9020306@yahoo.com.au> <20041005223307.375597ee.akpm@osdl.org> <41638E61.9000004@pobox.com> <20041005233958.522972a9.akpm@osdl.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041005233958.522972a9.akpm@osdl.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1209 Lines: 28 On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 11:39:58PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > I agree - -mm breaks too often. You wouldn't believe the crap people throw > at me :(. But a lot of problems get fixed this way too. Mainline is suffering too - lots of people I know running 2.6 on production systems have noted a marked increase in problems, crashes, odd things. I'd bet you get a lot of people who'd vote for a timeout right now to figure out what's going wrong. There is the distinct impression that we are going down hill in this series. My personal feeling is that this trend started almost immediately after OLS. I can try to gather the general reports I hear from people - it might well be that we are not reporting the bugs properly. I'm sitting on a couple of odd things myself that need to be written up. Thanks. -- http://www.PowerDNS.com Open source, database driven DNS Software http://lartc.org Linux Advanced Routing & Traffic Control HOWTO - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/