Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269856AbUJGXHr (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Oct 2004 19:07:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269916AbUJGXHJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Oct 2004 19:07:09 -0400 Received: from findaloan.ca ([66.11.177.6]:38624 "EHLO findaloan.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268232AbUJGXE3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Oct 2004 19:04:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 19:00:19 -0400 From: Mark Mielke To: "David S. Miller" Cc: msipkema@sipkema-digital.com, cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com, hzhong@cisco.com, jst1@email.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, davem@redhat.com Subject: Re: UDP recvmsg blocks after select(), 2.6 bug? Message-ID: <20041007230019.GA31684@mark.mielke.cc> Mail-Followup-To: "David S. Miller" , msipkema@sipkema-digital.com, cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com, hzhong@cisco.com, jst1@email.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, davem@redhat.com References: <00e501c4ac9a$556797d0$b83147ab@amer.cisco.com> <41658C03.6000503@nortelnetworks.com> <015f01c4acbe$cf70dae0$161b14ac@boromir> <4165B9DD.7010603@nortelnetworks.com> <20041007150035.6e9f0e09.davem@davemloft.net> <000901c4acc4$26404450$161b14ac@boromir> <20041007152400.17e8f475.davem@davemloft.net> <20041007224242.GA31430@mark.mielke.cc> <20041007154722.2a09c4ab.davem@davemloft.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041007154722.2a09c4ab.davem@davemloft.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1747 Lines: 42 On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 03:47:22PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote: > On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 18:42:42 -0400 > Mark Mielke wrote: > > Sure, it's nice to demand that people > > upgrade to a later version of Perl. Guess what? It isn't happening. It > > will be another year or two before we can guarantee people have Perl > > 5.006 on their system. > If those people are tepid about upgrading perl, I think it would > be even less likely that they would upgrade their kernels. Good practical point for the here and now. :-) The discussion, though, is more about what it should have been. The combined frustrations of many of us. To colour the discussion a bit, many of us have had these same frustrations with Sun, and HP on various issues. Just say "it's a bug, but one we have chosen not to fix for practical reasons." That would have kept me out of this discussion. Saying the behaviour is correct and that POSIX is wrong - that raises hairs - both the question kind, and the concern kind. Cheers, mark -- mark@mielke.cc/markm@ncf.ca/markm@nortelnetworks.com __________________________ . . _ ._ . . .__ . . ._. .__ . . . .__ | Neighbourhood Coder |\/| |_| |_| |/ |_ |\/| | |_ | |/ |_ | | | | | | \ | \ |__ . | | .|. |__ |__ | \ |__ | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... http://mark.mielke.cc/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/