Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265800AbUJHSrt (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:47:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261875AbUJHSqD (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:46:03 -0400 Received: from mx1.elte.hu ([157.181.1.137]:59863 "EHLO mx1.elte.hu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265768AbUJHSlY (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:41:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 20:42:51 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List , Alan Cox Subject: Re: Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone Message-ID: <20041008184251.GA28790@elte.hu> References: <35fb2e590410011509712b7d1@mail.gmail.com> <415DD1ED.6030101@drdos.com> <1096738439.25290.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <41659748.9090906@drdos.com> <8B592DC4-18A9-11D9-ABEB-000393ACC76E@mac.com> <4165B265.2050506@drdos.com> <8550FDB8-18AC-11D9-ABEB-000393ACC76E@mac.com> <4165B53F.2060707@drdos.com> <20041008122703.GA15604@elte.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-ELTE-SpamVersion: MailScanner 4.31.6-itk1 (ELTE 1.2) SpamAssassin 2.63 ClamAV 0.73 X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-4.201, required 5.9, BAYES_00 -4.90, US_DOLLARS_3 0.70 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamScore: -4 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1433 Lines: 32 * Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > all the politics aside, the Linux 2.6 kernel, if developed from scratch > > as commercial software, takes at least this much effort under the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > default COCOMO model: > > Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 175,974,824 > The biggest problem I have with counting `code size' (yes, we use > sloccount at work), is that given more time and resources than needed > to implement the required functionality, code size usually shrinks due > to clean ups. So it costs _more_ money to decrease the #loc. Software > is just like protocols design: nowhere do i mean to imply that this figure represents the true value of Linux, or that it even comes close. It is just a minimum lower bound i cited. I believe the true market value of Linux (the kernel alone) is probably in the billions of dollars range and that there's one rather big and agressive company on this planet that would be happy to pay even more just to make it go away. (But for many of us Linux is like freedom (or fresh air), with no particular dollar amount attached to it.) Ingo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/