Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266352AbUJIDJz (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:09:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266362AbUJIDJz (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:09:55 -0400 Received: from umhlanga.stratnet.net ([12.162.17.40]:30287 "EHLO umhlanga.STRATNET.NET") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266352AbUJIDJx (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:09:53 -0400 To: Jeff Garzik Cc: Greg KH , openib-general@openib.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Message-Flag: Warning: May contain useful information References: <20041008202247.GA9653@kroah.com> <528yagn63x.fsf@topspin.com> <41673772.9010402@pobox.com> From: Roland Dreier Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:09:50 -0700 In-Reply-To: <41673772.9010402@pobox.com> (Jeff Garzik's message of "Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:57:22 -0400") Message-ID: <52zn2wlh8h.fsf@topspin.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: roland@topspin.com Subject: Re: [openib-general] InfiniBand incompatible with the Linux kernel? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1 (built Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:06:07 +0200) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on eddore) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2004 03:09:51.0497 (UTC) FILETIME=[714BFF90:01C4ADAD] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1314 Lines: 29 Jeff> Read the member agreement :) It -explicitly- does -not- Jeff> require waiving of patent claims related to any Jeff> implementation of IB. Jeff> That's different from ATA, SCSI, USB, the list goes on... Fair enough, but read the Bluetooth SIG patent agreement [1]. As far as I can tell, all it requires is that other SIG members receive a patent license. Do we need to do rm -rf net/bluetooth? IEEE only requires that patents be licensed under RAND terms (it does not even require royalty free licensing) [2]. Time for rm -rf drivers/ieee1394? The code that we have written so far is pretty standard driver code, so I have a hard time believing that the IB drivers are any more at risk than any other Linux code. There may be good and valid reasons not to merge IB drivers upstream, but I'd be very disappointed if this FUD about patents is what keeps them out. Thanks, Roland [1] https://www.bluetooth.org/foundry/sitecontent/document/Patent_and_Copyright_License_Agreement [2] http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/