Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267306AbUJITbG (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 Oct 2004 15:31:06 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267314AbUJITbG (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 Oct 2004 15:31:06 -0400 Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.4]:49041 "HELO viper.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S267306AbUJITbD (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 Oct 2004 15:31:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Linux 2.6 Real Time Kernel From: Lee Revell To: stefan.eletzhofer@eletztrick.de Cc: linux-kernel In-Reply-To: <20041009212614.GA25441@tier.local> References: <41677E4D.1030403@mvista.com> <416822B7.5050206@opersys.com> <1097346628.1428.11.camel@krustophenia.net> <20041009212614.GA25441@tier.local> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1097350227.1428.41.camel@krustophenia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 15:30:27 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1330 Lines: 29 On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 17:26, stefan.eletzhofer@eletztrick.de wrote: > On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 02:30:28PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 13:41, Karim Yaghmour wrote: > > > Sven-Thorsten Dietrich wrote: > > > > - Voluntary Preemption by Ingo Molnar > > > > - IRQ thread patches by Scott Wood and Ingo Molnar > > > > - BKL mutex patch by Ingo Molnar (with MV extensions) > > > > - PMutex from Germany's Universitaet der Bundeswehr, Munich > > > > - MontaVista mutex abstraction layer replacing spinlocks with mutexes > > > > > > To the best of my understanding, this still doesn't provide deterministic > > > hard-real-time performance in Linux. > > > > Using only the VP+IRQ thread patch, I ran my RT app for 11 million > > cycles yesterday, with a maximum delay of 190 usecs. How would this not > > satisfy a 200 usec hard RT constraint? > > I think the keyword here is "deterministic", isn't it? Well, depends what you mean by deterministic. Some RT apps only require an upper bound on response time. This is a form of determinism. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/