Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267397AbUJIUTU (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 Oct 2004 16:19:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267396AbUJIUTH (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 Oct 2004 16:19:07 -0400 Received: from peabody.ximian.com ([130.57.169.10]:47241 "EHLO peabody.ximian.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267361AbUJIUSo (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 Oct 2004 16:18:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Linux 2.6 Real Time Kernel From: Robert Love To: Lee Revell Cc: stefan.eletzhofer@eletztrick.de, linux-kernel In-Reply-To: <1097351221.1428.46.camel@krustophenia.net> References: <41677E4D.1030403@mvista.com> <416822B7.5050206@opersys.com> <1097346628.1428.11.camel@krustophenia.net> <20041009212614.GA25441@tier.local> <1097350227.1428.41.camel@krustophenia.net> <20041009213817.GB25441@tier.local> <1097351221.1428.46.camel@krustophenia.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:20:25 -0400 Message-Id: <1097353225.9973.7.camel@lucy> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 987 Lines: 24 On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 15:47 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > Yes. The upper bound on the response time of an RT task is a function > of the longest non-preemptible code path in the kernel. Currently this > is the processing of a single packet by netif_receive_skb. > > AIUI hard realtime is about bounded response times. How does this not > qualify? I am actually in agreement with you, favoring this soft real-time approach, but this is not bounded response time or determinism. There are no guarantees, no measurements conducted with all possible inputs, sizes, errors, and so on. This soft real-time approach gives great average case--but the worst case is only a measurement on a specific machine in a specific workload. Robert Love - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/