Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268633AbUJKCHY (ORCPT ); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:07:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268637AbUJKCHY (ORCPT ); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:07:24 -0400 Received: from mail1.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.168]:34059 "EHLO mail1.webmaster.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268633AbUJKCHW (ORCPT ); Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:07:22 -0400 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Willy Tarreau" Cc: , Subject: RE: possible GPL violation by Free Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:06:22 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1097456379.27877.51.camel@frenchenigma> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:43:06 -0700 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:43:11 -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1203 Lines: 28 > If I remember correctly my contract, after 36 months, I become the owner > of the freebox. The argument about renting does not seem to hold, > anyway. In the United States, it is illegal to rent computer software without the copyright holder's permission. Arguments such as, "I'm selling/renting the computer/hard drive, the software just happens to be on it" don't generally impress the courts. In any event, it seems pretty obvious to me that renting a physical medium that contains an encoded copyrighted work is a form of distribution of that work. The operation of that physical device is as much a derived work of the copyrighted work as the visual/audio experience of seeing a play is a derived work of the script for the play. In other words, I don't think any court or lawyer would find the "we're renting the computer, not distributing the software that comes with it and is required for its operation" to be persuasive. IANL, YMMV. DS - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/