Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268714AbUJPMkW (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:40:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268716AbUJPMkW (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:40:22 -0400 Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de ([192.109.42.6]:1251 "EHLO hirsch.in-berlin.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268714AbUJPMkU (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:40:20 -0400 X-Envelope-From: kraxel@bytesex.org Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:21:57 +0200 From: Gerd Knorr To: Andi Kleen Cc: Alan Cox , KendallB@scitechsoft.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT? Message-ID: <20041016122156.GA7968@bytesex> References: <1ewKr-2Kh-41@gated-at.bofh.it> <1bucs-57R-33@gated-at.bofh.it> <2PncW-6j9-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <20030423094012$4166@gated-at.bofh.it> <2PncW-6j9-17@gated-at.bofh.it> <2PAMY-7Ir-21@gated-at.bofh.it> <87u0swouvu.fsf@bytesex.org> <20041016005544.GA75049@muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041016005544.GA75049@muc.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1119 Lines: 29 On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 02:55:44AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 05:37:09PM +0200, Gerd Knorr wrote: > > Andi Kleen writes: > > > > > The problem is that this would imply that the console would only > > > work after user space is running. Even with initrd that's quite late. > > > > klibc + initramfs + early userspace? > > That's still quite late in my book (by my perspective may be skewed > a bit from low level architecture hacking) Framebuffer console _is_ quite late compared vgacon or even early_printk, all the basic stuff is already up+running at that point. I think initialization in early userspace can be done in a way that it wouldn't delay the initial console display compared to todays vesafb (or any other framebuffer). Of course you need some way to turn it off and use vgacon instead ... Gerd -- return -ENOSIG; - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/