Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:54:06 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:53:56 -0400 Received: from snark.tuxedo.org ([207.106.50.26]:11026 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:53:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:52:46 -0400 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Andreas Dilger Cc: Russell King , Alan Cox , "Albert D. Cahalan" , Matthew Wilcox , james rich , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org Subject: Proposal for better attribution structure Message-ID: <20010420205246.A22693@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , Andreas Dilger , Russell King , Alan Cox , "Albert D. Cahalan" , Matthew Wilcox , james rich , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org In-Reply-To: <20010420195004.A5510@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <200104202123.f3KLNWSm031572@webber.adilger.int> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104202123.f3KLNWSm031572@webber.adilger.int>; from adilger@turbolinux.com on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 03:23:32PM -0600 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Andreas Dilger : > One of the issues for contacting each MAINTAINER is that this information > is out-of-line from the actual kernel tree. The other is that the > description of what a maintainer is actually controlling is somewhat > vague. I strongly agree. I first tripped over this problem when I was trying to identify the responsible parties for [Cc]onfig.in files. It's biting me again now that I'm trying to clean up the CONFIG_ space. It's one that's going to cause grief for anybody trying to do *global* work on the kernel, stuff that crosses boundaries between maintainer jurisdictions. > How about the following: > - each directory has a MAINTAINERS file which lists parties with a > vested interest in files in that directory (format is mostly the > same as current) > - subdirectories which don't have a MAINTAINERS file use the MAINTAINERS > file of the parent (or grandparent) directory > - each maintainer entry explicitly lists each file/directory that this > person is interested in, maybe "F: {file | directory} ...". > > I'm sure Eric can come up with a simple program to parse the MAINTAINER > file/tree. If the program takes a kernel-tree relative filename and > spit out the name/email of the relevant maintainer (subsystem and port > specific mailing lists should also be included), that would make the > job of finding out who to send patches to a whole lot easier. The spirit of this proposal is, IMO, excellent. I like the idea that if maintainer information for a particular piece of the hierarchy doesn't exist, you float up to the next higher level. Search always ends at the root MAINTAINERS file. And I could indeed write a program such as Andreas describes, and would be most willing to do so. I have one objection, however. I think the maintainers information should normally be inline of the file in question, so there won't be a need for an explicit F: link that could become invalid. So I think the search order should look like this: 1. Look for maintainer markup in the file itself. 2. Then look for a NAINTAINERS file in the current directory. 3. Then look upwards for MAINTAINERS files in enclosing directories. > My one gripe about the MAINTAINERS file is that it still lists Remy > Card as EXT2 maintainer, so we would probably need to do a find on > the whole kernel tree, email each address a list of files that they > "maintain" and wait until they complain, agree, or time out. Once > the database is up-to-date, it simplifies the job of keeping maintainers > (and other interested parties) in the loop. I have until 6 May at least to work on this, if there is consensus that it's a good idea. -- Eric S. Raymond Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them. -- Miranda vs. Arizona, 384 US 436 p. 491 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/