Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267702AbUJRTuE (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:50:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267633AbUJRTpb (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:45:31 -0400 Received: from mail.scitechsoft.com ([63.195.13.67]:33960 "EHLO mail.scitechsoft.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267649AbUJRToC (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:44:02 -0400 From: "Kendall Bennett" Organization: SciTech Software, Inc. To: Martin Waitz Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:43:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT? CC: Linux Kernel Mailing List Message-ID: <4173BA7D.32320.11833A1D@localhost> In-reply-to: <20041018114443.GC3618@admingilde.org> References: <416FB29A.11731.1C46848@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Flag: NO Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1618 Lines: 42 Martin Waitz wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 11:20:58AM -0700, Kendall Bennett wrote: > > Alan Cox wrote: > > > It doesn't imply this at all. You set an initial mode with the BIOS > > > during boot up. When your initrd runs you gain the ability to flip mode > > > and do cool stuff - arguably it doesn't even need to be in initrd. > > > > That works great on x86, but this solution was developed for PowerPC and > > MIPS embedded systems development not x86 desktop systems. For those > > platforms you either need a boot loader that can bring up the system into > > graphics mode > > not neccessarily. > > If anything goes wrong before console is initialized, then that > could be displayed by the firmware. Is there any arch which doesn't > have some basic text-output functunality in its firmware? I am not sure what you mean by basic text output? If you mean to a display, then yes, embedded boxes using U-Boot and OpenBIOS usually do not have any text output. But if you mean serial output that is usually the method of choice for the embedded machines that don't have support for a physical display in the firmware. Regards, --- Kendall Bennett Chief Executive Officer SciTech Software, Inc. Phone: (530) 894 8400 http://www.scitechsoft.com ~ SciTech SNAP - The future of device driver technology! ~ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/