Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266460AbUJRUkV (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:40:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267361AbUJRUhZ (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:37:25 -0400 Received: from [69.4.201.55] ([69.4.201.55]:19600 "EHLO bitworks.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266460AbUJRUfD (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:35:03 -0400 Message-ID: <417428F2.2050402@bitworks.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:34:58 -0500 From: Richard Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT? References: <200410160946.32644.adaplas@hotpop.com> <4173B865.26539.117B09BD@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4173B865.26539.117B09BD@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1281 Lines: 33 Kendall Bennett wrote: > > I would assume however a serial port console would be fine for embedded > machines until the framebuffer driver could come up anyway. > This would be an incorrect assumption. Speaking as a developer of one said embedded system I must have video at boot and be able to dump critical kernel messages to the screen. In the field, hooking up a serial cable to see why the unit doesn't boot requires the dispatch of a tech who would have open up the unit to get to the serial port. This costs the end client lots of $$. They don't like that. By having video on boot the support person can tell the end user to look at the screen and read back any messages and then make the determination if a tech dispatch is needed. And its common practice to only have as many serial ports as the system needs during runtime. During development you can dual purpose them but in the final system their may not be a serial port free (or even installed) to get that console info from. -- Richard A. Smith - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/