Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269773AbUJSVvp (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:51:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S269530AbUJSVtm (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:49:42 -0400 Received: from gprs214-24.eurotel.cz ([160.218.214.24]:5248 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S269773AbUJSVm7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:42:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:42:46 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Jon Smirl Cc: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT? Message-ID: <20041019214246.GE1142@elf.ucw.cz> References: <200410160946.32644.adaplas@hotpop.com> <4173B865.26539.117B09BD@localhost> <417428F2.2050402@bitworks.com> <9e47339104101814166bf4cfe5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9e47339104101814166bf4cfe5@mail.gmail.com> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1215 Lines: 27 Hi! > > > I would assume however a serial port console would be fine for embedded > > > machines until the framebuffer driver could come up anyway. > > > > > This would be an incorrect assumption. Speaking as a developer of one > > said embedded system I must have video at boot and be able to dump > > critical kernel messages to the screen. > > I don't see it as the kernel's responsibility to compensate for lack > of something in an embedded system's BIOS. Embedded programmers are > free to go in and add basic display code to their arch specific > directories for printing out this class of messages. Better yet would > be to fix the embedded ROM to support basic display. Unfortunately, this is not only problem of embedded bootup but also of resume (from suspend-to-RAM) on plain i386 notebook near you... Pavel -- People were complaining that M$ turns users into beta-testers... ...jr ghea gurz vagb qrirybcref, naq gurl frrz gb yvxr vg gung jnl! - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/