Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270576AbUJTWT4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:19:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270374AbUJTWSk (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:18:40 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.196]:55198 "EHLO mproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S270563AbUJTWRF (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:17:05 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=j0AkqcXk03qiRG22S97yDOkhIBDoI3mMyk5s4Lwf9JLhnNwEH2++matpentyyC868N4lktI5JzqPwodrmWFZrfIu2oCoLkvKNFYFeDXow0zSPCXzzCJxTF/neB7NTXwBCPaPxgw5Y/C2hOe6V044OcsJ7ByInVoVc0AMPQFHJRw Message-ID: <7f800d9f04102015174e7356a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:17:05 -0700 From: Andre Eisenbach Reply-To: Andre Eisenbach To: Timothy Miller Subject: Re: HARDWARE: Open-Source-Friendly Graphics Cards -- Viable? Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <4176E08B.2050706@techsource.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4176E08B.2050706@techsource.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1535 Lines: 36 On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:02:51 -0400, Timothy Miller wrote: > In short, what I have been proposing to my superiors is the development > of a graphics card specifically for open source systems. That sounds truly great! However... If the graphics card mostly supports 2D initially, it's really not much better then just about any off the shelf graphics card with VESA drivers. As in, the hardware doesn't need to be open for just that. Most (all?) the frustration in Linux graphics card land comes from unsupported/closed 3D drivers. I obviously understand that it would be very costly to try to catch up with ATI/NVidia in 3D land, but if you manage to get an open platform out there which has great 3D potential (hardware wise) and is easily programmable, I am sure the open source community would _love_ to try to jointly develop fast 3D firmware (and drivers). That way Techsource won't have to front the cost (other than for hardware). So a open, programmable 3D hardware platform would open the door for open source 3D engine innovation. If you get this off the road, that would be very impressive and most exciting to watch. However, if you're only going to focus on 2D, I don't see the excitement. 2D works pretty much for everyone, no? Cheers, Andre - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/