Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269157AbUJTW7x (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:59:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270068AbUJTWcK (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:32:10 -0400 Received: from out008pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.108]:46307 "EHLO out008.verizon.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268646AbUJTW2C (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:28:02 -0400 Message-ID: <4176E671.4090104@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:28:01 -0400 From: Jim Nelson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040922 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Timothy Miller CC: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: HARDWARE: Open-Source-Friendly Graphics Cards -- Viable? References: <4176E08B.2050706@techsource.com> In-Reply-To: <4176E08B.2050706@techsource.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out008.verizon.net from [209.158.211.53] at Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:28:01 -0500 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2635 Lines: 54 Timothy Miller wrote: > I can produce more detail later, but first, some characteristics and > advantages of what I'm proposing: > > - x86 BIOS/OpenBoot/OpenFirmware code under BSD and GPL license > - kernel drivers under BSD and GPL license > - X11 module under MIT license > - flashable PROM so that boot code can be added for more platforms > - usable as the console on any platform that can take a PCI, AGP, or > PCI-Express card > - downloadable schematic for the circuit board > - FPGA-based graphics engine so it's reprogrammable > - instructions on how to reprogram the FPGA, so it's hackable > - if we discontinue a product, we may release the Verilog code for the FPGA > - Since this is designed to be open-source-friendly, we want to play by > the rules of the open-source community. > - Tech Source would actively participate in the development and > maintenance of our own drivers. > - We will actually pay attention to problems and concerns raised by > users and developers. > - We won't be control-freaks. > I haven't worked out a complete design spec for this product. The > reason is that what we think people want and what people REALLY want may > not be congruent. If you have a good idea for a piece of graphics > hardware which you think would be beneficial to the free software > community (and worth it for a company to produce), then Tech Source, as > a graphics company, might be willing to sell it. > > You might want to take a look at the onboard video market. Providing an open-source 2D rendering engine and the PCI glue logic that work on an FPGA would probably revolutionize embedded PC applicatiuons that rely on a graphical interface. Providing support to motherboard manufaturers who might want a low-cost onboard video solution (micro-ITX, etc) is another possibility. You also might want to look at PC/104 and CompactPCI form factors - I think the industrial market will be a great target, and, after all, if you have to move 80% industrial equipment to justify the 20% AGP sales, it makes good sense. There might even be a market for ISA, SBus, and MCA cards, for people stuck supporting seriously old machines (386, 486, SPARC) where it's almost impossible to find working graphics cards. Even if it's a DOS machine, hardware is hardware, and a brand-new VL-bus card for someone's 486 would be pretty cool :) My $0.02 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/